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		<title>By: Nahili</title>
		<link>http://stardustmelody.wordpress.com/2007/11/10/you-got-a-long-way-to-go/#comment-1255</link>
		<dc:creator>Nahili</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 20:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I must have misunderstood. Sorry if I&#039;ve hurt any feelings (I guess I just made myself look ridiculous.)

Here&#039;s my question together with the my logical reasoning behind it.

-If elections are fair, then why rally?
-If elections are rigged, then a group of people is corrupted (which is a very bad and grim assumption).
-Why disrupt normal flow of life if people don&#039;t support your cause anyway? Is rallying going to show them that you&#039;re better? fairer? believe in justice? believe in peace?
-If they liked you, wouldn&#039;t they support you anyway...
-is rallying the Asian way, or is it a disease that comes from West? abnormal for us? strange for us?

I still don&#039;t get this rallying ideavirus. Why more destruction instead of creation is promoted? Why people follow western way, which is usually based on force, not on justice...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must have misunderstood. Sorry if I&#8217;ve hurt any feelings (I guess I just made myself look ridiculous.)</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s my question together with the my logical reasoning behind it.</p>
<p>-If elections are fair, then why rally?<br />
-If elections are rigged, then a group of people is corrupted (which is a very bad and grim assumption).<br />
-Why disrupt normal flow of life if people don&#8217;t support your cause anyway? Is rallying going to show them that you&#8217;re better? fairer? believe in justice? believe in peace?<br />
-If they liked you, wouldn&#8217;t they support you anyway&#8230;<br />
-is rallying the Asian way, or is it a disease that comes from West? abnormal for us? strange for us?</p>
<p>I still don&#8217;t get this rallying ideavirus. Why more destruction instead of creation is promoted? Why people follow western way, which is usually based on force, not on justice&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Nahili</title>
		<link>http://stardustmelody.wordpress.com/2007/11/10/you-got-a-long-way-to-go/#comment-994</link>
		<dc:creator>Nahili</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 20:06:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone who&#039;s not Malaysian and wants to understand is stupid (lacks capacity). Great! 

Who&#039;s got a long way to go now?
&lt;strong&gt;
meldee: i think you misunderstand nahili. we refer to &lt;em&gt;anyone &lt;/em&gt;who cannot think for themselves and formulate an opinion, or remember that there is always more than one side to a story. people who lack intellectual capacity can be of any ethnicity or nationality.&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone who&#8217;s not Malaysian and wants to understand is stupid (lacks capacity). Great! </p>
<p>Who&#8217;s got a long way to go now?<br />
<strong><br />
meldee: i think you misunderstand nahili. we refer to <em>anyone </em>who cannot think for themselves and formulate an opinion, or remember that there is always more than one side to a story. people who lack intellectual capacity can be of any ethnicity or nationality.</strong></p>
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		<title>By: tem</title>
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		<dc:creator>tem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:12:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh my goodness, kathia, i agree with you. 
people like these really need to be told off for their ignorance. 
i can&#039;t believe people sometimes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh my goodness, kathia, i agree with you.<br />
people like these really need to be told off for their ignorance.<br />
i can&#8217;t believe people sometimes.</p>
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		<title>By: kathia</title>
		<link>http://stardustmelody.wordpress.com/2007/11/10/you-got-a-long-way-to-go/#comment-987</link>
		<dc:creator>kathia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 10:09:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tems, just write capacity. they deserve it.

yesterday, on the way to the gym i overheard a conversation about the rally. two women. one in her late 50s and another in her early 30s.

one said the rally was against the constitution, while another said anwar is calling for election. 

i almost burst out in flames and then proceed to assault them for their apathy and lack of need to find out how their country is turning into a banana republic (not the clothing brand). 

oh the kind of people NOT be stuck in a lift with.

&lt;strong&gt;meldee: *pat pat* i&#039;d have glared at them, or, depending on my mood, told them as nicely as possible about it. you know how they teach us to be kind to the less fortunate? well.&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tems, just write capacity. they deserve it.</p>
<p>yesterday, on the way to the gym i overheard a conversation about the rally. two women. one in her late 50s and another in her early 30s.</p>
<p>one said the rally was against the constitution, while another said anwar is calling for election. </p>
<p>i almost burst out in flames and then proceed to assault them for their apathy and lack of need to find out how their country is turning into a banana republic (not the clothing brand). </p>
<p>oh the kind of people NOT be stuck in a lift with.</p>
<p><strong>meldee: *pat pat* i&#8217;d have glared at them, or, depending on my mood, told them as nicely as possible about it. you know how they teach us to be kind to the less fortunate? well.</strong></p>
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		<title>By: Nahili</title>
		<link>http://stardustmelody.wordpress.com/2007/11/10/you-got-a-long-way-to-go/#comment-986</link>
		<dc:creator>Nahili</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 21:26:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone is rallying these days; Monks, Turks, Pakistanis, American screenwriters, Malaysians...

Okay, there&#039;s no such thing as &quot;full democracy&quot;, and nations always strive to get more. But did peaceful rallying or protesting ever work. I just miss historical facts... I know that &quot;angry mob&quot; strategy, supported by secret forces &amp; organizations sometimes work: French &amp; Russian revolutions. What about peaceful demands, do they actually work?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone is rallying these days; Monks, Turks, Pakistanis, American screenwriters, Malaysians&#8230;</p>
<p>Okay, there&#8217;s no such thing as &#8220;full democracy&#8221;, and nations always strive to get more. But did peaceful rallying or protesting ever work. I just miss historical facts&#8230; I know that &#8220;angry mob&#8221; strategy, supported by secret forces &amp; organizations sometimes work: French &amp; Russian revolutions. What about peaceful demands, do they actually work?</p>
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		<title>By: -aleeya-</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 18:37:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>2nd comment on this post but what the heck.its an interesting one. most of the local news claimed that BERSIH was a front for the opposition parties and since dato&#039; seri anwar was there..therefore it is a &#039;political&#039; rally. logical assumption to be made..if you don&#039;t go beyond our local medias obviously. can&#039;t believe that what i studied during issues of journalism class can actually be put to use :p</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>2nd comment on this post but what the heck.its an interesting one. most of the local news claimed that BERSIH was a front for the opposition parties and since dato&#8217; seri anwar was there..therefore it is a &#8216;political&#8217; rally. logical assumption to be made..if you don&#8217;t go beyond our local medias obviously. can&#8217;t believe that what i studied during issues of journalism class can actually be put to use :p</p>
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		<title>By: csa</title>
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		<dc:creator>csa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 18:05:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know it&#039;s oh so taboo in certain circles to mention race, but i must say this. I wish i saw more Chinese, Indian, dan lain lain at Saturday&#039;s rally.

Enough apathy, my fellow Cheenakuis! complaining and migrating to Australia doesn&#039;t solve anything.

I just had dinner with a buncha people who said &quot;Wah, yesterday KL got riot hor&quot; and yeah, they too, thought it was an Anwar event. So urghhhh pffft.

We can&#039;t force awareness down people&#039;s throats, so what do we do?
Our press is so... pfft.. what to do?

I agree with Temme. This could be good, this could be bad. 

The government can and probably will take this and spin it into a &quot;BN menjaga keamanan rakyat&quot; bullshit. RTM has been showing clips on how &quot;Demonstrasi selalunya berakhir dalam keganasan&quot; and I might add, they&#039;ve used clips from Pakistan and other countries to &quot;prove&quot; their point. 

I suspect the ruling coalition is unfazed by this. They&#039;re quite arrogant. They know they can call the elections anytime and they will still win. We can only hope this memorandum makes some difference. Maybe we need divine intervention.

Btw. the Bersih rally organisers have a tea appointment at Bukit Aman tomorrow. Should be interesting to see what happens.  

And perhaps I should go rant on my blog instead. Wahaha. 

Sekian, terima kasih.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know it&#8217;s oh so taboo in certain circles to mention race, but i must say this. I wish i saw more Chinese, Indian, dan lain lain at Saturday&#8217;s rally.</p>
<p>Enough apathy, my fellow Cheenakuis! complaining and migrating to Australia doesn&#8217;t solve anything.</p>
<p>I just had dinner with a buncha people who said &#8220;Wah, yesterday KL got riot hor&#8221; and yeah, they too, thought it was an Anwar event. So urghhhh pffft.</p>
<p>We can&#8217;t force awareness down people&#8217;s throats, so what do we do?<br />
Our press is so&#8230; pfft.. what to do?</p>
<p>I agree with Temme. This could be good, this could be bad. </p>
<p>The government can and probably will take this and spin it into a &#8220;BN menjaga keamanan rakyat&#8221; bullshit. RTM has been showing clips on how &#8220;Demonstrasi selalunya berakhir dalam keganasan&#8221; and I might add, they&#8217;ve used clips from Pakistan and other countries to &#8220;prove&#8221; their point. </p>
<p>I suspect the ruling coalition is unfazed by this. They&#8217;re quite arrogant. They know they can call the elections anytime and they will still win. We can only hope this memorandum makes some difference. Maybe we need divine intervention.</p>
<p>Btw. the Bersih rally organisers have a tea appointment at Bukit Aman tomorrow. Should be interesting to see what happens.  </p>
<p>And perhaps I should go rant on my blog instead. Wahaha. </p>
<p>Sekian, terima kasih.</p>
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		<title>By: tem</title>
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		<dc:creator>tem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:42:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what&#039;s a proper noun? 
i&#039;m so bad at grammar.

the rally may have sparked public interest, but with the propaganda the national media is forced to spread, people who are out of touch with alternative sources of information might subscribe to what they are told.

the rally can work for the good or bad, the way I see it. 
1) Public attention to further inadequacies of our country
or 
2) more reason for the ruling coalition to propagate, &#039;see? this is why you need us to keep the peace&#039;

what&#039;s more, at the rate we&#039;re going, people are being told that this is an &quot;anwar rally&quot;. even foreign press are publishing articles stating that. 
ironic because this rally is not even political to begin with.

we have to keep in mind that many people don&#039;t have the knowledge/training (i wanted to write capacity but that&#039;s just plain mean) to think critically. tonnes more are barely even interested in how things go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what&#8217;s a proper noun?<br />
i&#8217;m so bad at grammar.</p>
<p>the rally may have sparked public interest, but with the propaganda the national media is forced to spread, people who are out of touch with alternative sources of information might subscribe to what they are told.</p>
<p>the rally can work for the good or bad, the way I see it.<br />
1) Public attention to further inadequacies of our country<br />
or<br />
2) more reason for the ruling coalition to propagate, &#8217;see? this is why you need us to keep the peace&#8217;</p>
<p>what&#8217;s more, at the rate we&#8217;re going, people are being told that this is an &#8220;anwar rally&#8221;. even foreign press are publishing articles stating that.<br />
ironic because this rally is not even political to begin with.</p>
<p>we have to keep in mind that many people don&#8217;t have the knowledge/training (i wanted to write capacity but that&#8217;s just plain mean) to think critically. tonnes more are barely even interested in how things go.</p>
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		<title>By: kathia</title>
		<link>http://stardustmelody.wordpress.com/2007/11/10/you-got-a-long-way-to-go/#comment-980</link>
		<dc:creator>kathia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 14:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i love how suddenly &#039;rakyat&#039; has become a proper noun. blame the press.
&lt;strong&gt;
meldee: it&#039;s localising the global, m&#039;dear ;)&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i love how suddenly &#8216;rakyat&#8217; has become a proper noun. blame the press.<br />
<strong><br />
meldee: it&#8217;s localising the global, m&#8217;dear <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </strong></p>
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		<title>By: Syafrizal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Syafrizal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 13:16:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fellow rakyat, do you think sitting around will solve anything?
&lt;strong&gt;
meldee: it&#039;s regretful indeed that people have this perception that yeah, i support your cause, but refuse to go out and get their hands dirty. it&#039;s like cheering a man in a ditch on saying that you&#039;re confident he has the strength and resources to get out and yet not offer a helping hand.

we need a paradigm shift and we need it now.&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fellow rakyat, do you think sitting around will solve anything?<br />
<strong><br />
meldee: it&#8217;s regretful indeed that people have this perception that yeah, i support your cause, but refuse to go out and get their hands dirty. it&#8217;s like cheering a man in a ditch on saying that you&#8217;re confident he has the strength and resources to get out and yet not offer a helping hand.</p>
<p>we need a paradigm shift and we need it now.</strong></p>
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